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According to Jessicka in her statement, one of the reasons why it took her so long to come out with her story was the record label that Jack Off Jill was signed to;

In 1997, I was warned by my band’s record company that if I revealed my story publicly, there would be a very good chance that my band Jack Off Jill would be black balled by concert promoters, radio programmers, and other bands and their managers. Jack Off Jill was also warned of running the risk of losing our coveted record deal (which they gave us!!,) as they were certain no one would ever take a rape victim in this male dominated music business seriously, nevermind a ferocious, disenfranchised, outspoken overweight front woman such as myself! The label blatantly feared the big machine behind Marilyn Manson would use their power to destroy not only Jack Off Jill, but my name, Jessicka, as well. The pressure and guilt of the inevitable repercussions of my rape story affecting my band’s livelihood, happiness and success kept me silent for years.

Have to include here a great point the Gala Sisters made, that she self identifies as an overweight woman? I doubt a record label representative would have brought that up as a point as to why people wouldn't take her seriously. Her weight is something that was brought up throughout her career, she prided herself in being someone who doesn't fit the beauty standards and is herself unapologetically. This claim with also accusations of Jeordie fat shaming her in the same story kind of do raise the question, was she herself the one insecure about this? Is this something she thought of herself rather than something a record label representative told her? That's a pretty outrageous thing to say? Someone's appearance has nothing to do with their credibility, I would imagine that had this actually been said to her, she would also address the label by name, as this would've been a horrible thing to say to an alleged rape victim. What label was it and why isn't it named?

Let's talk about the label. The fact that the record label i left unnamed is weird, considering that by Jessicka's social media, it has been seemingly her message to expose the abuse and misogyny in the male dominated music scene. Why is this record label then left unnamed. It becomes even a bigger question mark when you know what happened with it.

Jack Off Jill was signed to Risk records in 1997. They released their debut full album, Sexless Demons and Scars through risk in September of the same year. After that, in November 1998, they released a remix EP Covetous Creature. Coming up to the release of their second album Clear Hearts, Grey Flowers though, Risk went bankrupt and Jack Off Jill was left with no record label or proper promotion for their album. This, combined with the problems between the members of the band, especially co-founder Robin Moulder and Jessicka Addams, lead up to Jack Off Jill disbanding soon after.

Jessicka, in her own words, was "Frustrated with the record industry and vowed never to be in another band"

Why couldn't she include the name of this defunct record label? If it doesn't even exist anymore, and without the help of wayback machine, pretty much nothing could be found about it online. Naming it would only add to the credibility of the story for the reader. And by how hard she was going after Marilyn Manson for simply having Jeordie in his band still in 2017, one would think that she would also name the exact record company employee who'd told her the things she claimed she was told.

In fact, some people including myself in the beginning thought the problem was that the bands were on the same label, but that was not the issue.

Was Risk records left unnamed because some of the people that worked there still do work in the music business and could go to the press commenting on whether or not this ever actually happened? I managed to contact one person who worked at Risk, leaving him anonymous because he couldn't tell me anything relevant, but this person for example had moved forward to work in artist management.

So, when Jack Off Jill broke up in 2000, Jessicka was frustrated with the industry and vowed to never play in another band. She had no record deal to lose at this point anymore? Then, two years later Jeordie left Marilyn Manson so there was no "big machine" to fear either. Still, he had to come back to Marilyn Manson and play almost a decade in the band until this story was out?

Another problem with this record label claim is this:

Planning to come out with such a story, Jessicka would likely have discussed it with her band members, if not only to seek support as she was preparing for backlash from the public, but also to discuss what the band would do as a whole. Knowing this would probably at least somehow affect their reputation, she'd probably consulted with the band mates somehow. Remember, Jack Off Jill was a feminist band! So knowing all this, why would the band as a whole want to even tour with Marilyn Manson in 1999?

Of course, Jessicka says it was something they were "convinced to do by the record label" later in her statement. But again, why is the record label not named as Jack Off Jill now works to expose the misogyny in the music scene?

It would be quite a terrible thing for a record label to do: First, tell a rape victim to stay silent because money and then tell said victim to work together with the rapist because money. It's quite a serious claim! Shouldn't the people in the music business know whose priorities are all wrong?

And why I also find this "I even toured with Manson in 1999 because I was pressured to do so by our record company" suspicious... Well not only is there the comment from Jeordie's cousin on Facebook, where she said she'd witnessed Jessicka backstage saying she'll always love Jeordie... But also:

She leaves it unmentioned that Jack Off Jill toured with Marilyn Manson in December 1994, which would be basically right after the alleged rape, as "cheating on NIN tour" would place that in fall 1994.

This tour in December 1994, it was very often mentioned in interviews (which are included on the allegations against Jessicka page as they're relevant to that situation) as it was very memorable due to Jessicka being arrested on that tour. This, at the time was shared by her as a fun experience. Why is this tour left unmentioned? As well as later shows in summer 1995 supporting Marilyn Manson?

Well and these shows on that 1994 tour or the shows in 1995, Jessicka can't blame the record label for. They were not signed! At that point Jack Off Jill had not been even signed to Risk Records yet and therefore they were not "in a bad position because of their record company". At this point, in 1994-1995, JOJ was releasing cassettes and 7'' singles through Jessicka's own independent label called Rectum Records. JOJ also opened for Manson with the witness Pete's band Notch Above Kafka in summer 1995, still yet to be signed to Risk.

Why is this tour not mentioned, it's even MORE a question why on earth would Jack Off Jill tour with Marilyn Manson? Is it partly because it seems her target audience she wanted to react to this was Manson fans, who generally don't seem to know about this tour as when it's mentioned in LHROOH, Manson doesn't mention Jessicka being there at all and tells the story as if he'd been the only one arrested that night, as Jessicka was erased from LHROOH for some unknown reason.

It just is very interesting that she only mentions that 1999 tour with grief as if it was the only time, explains it with the record label that she won't name, then leaves out the much earlier tour that would've been right after the alleged rape, and during which they were not signed to any label.

And in Jessicka's quest to expose the misogyny and abuse in the music business, somehow this record label that allegedly did not care for her safety or for her mental wellbeing and pressured her into touring with someone she was so traumatized by, isn't mentioned by name?

These people do still work in the music business, I have done research on this and attempted to contact some... Wouldn't they have been asked to comment on this ...? No I guess, just mystery record label. Really serious claims but let's not look anything up.

Also, some time ago I was emailed about an article that I hadn't ever seen before.

Brooklyn: INSIDE GRLCVLT’S LETTER WRITING PARTY TO UNSEAT JUDGE AARON PERSKY, (June 16, 2016)

In this, though Jessicka isn't interviewed directly, the mention of her is interesting. So apparently, in 2016, before she made her full story public, she appeared at an event where she "for the first time" recounted her allegations publicly to an audience, through a skype call that was projected onto a wall for the audience to see.

This is interesting because her statement in 2017 then implies she's never told the full story before and the discussion at the time, she didn't seem sure herself whether "everyone knew the whole time" or that she was telling something she'd kept secret all this time from even those closest to her. The 2017 story is more like "I made a vague post in 2015 and now I'm naming him for the first time and now I'm publicly sharing the story for the first time" though she'd been posting and deleting a variety of different comments since 2015.

The article does not discuss her story in detail, but a friend of hers is interviewed about the general event and Jessicka's recounting of events is briefly mentioned.

"Earlier in the evening, Holwick’s long time friend Jessicka Addams, known for her band Jack off Jill, had also Skyped in. For the first time, publicly, she recounted her own rape. “Nobody made it through without crying. [Jessicka] made it through stronger than I did,” said Holwick. “She was told not to report it by everyone around her, even though she had a witness.” If she did, Addams had been warned, she would lose her record deal."

Of course, this is someone else's recounting of what she had said, not a direct quote from her, so between the reader and Jessicka, there is room for one person's misunderstandings, remembering incorrectly, etc, but the difference from what Jessicka would later say in 2017 regarding the record label is big enough that it's a completely different story.

In this skype call in 2016, allegedly, Jessicka had said that she was "told by everyone around her not to report it as not to lose her record deal."

In her statement in 2017 Jessicka said that she was "told by the record label not to reveal her story publicly as not to lose her record deal" and the part about not reporting the crime to the authorities is actually never explained, just that "[Pete and Jessicka] both had our own shame of not reporting it." Only not coming forward publicly is explained by the record label point.

Probably because in 1994, where we can by the rest of the story place the alleged rape, she did not have a record deal. She couldn't have been told this by everyone around her. It's also confusing because still I'm not sure if the story is that people knew this had happened or that it was not told to anyone. It keeps changing.

For comparison also, a 2022 spring explanation to why it was not reported to the police had nothing to do with a record deal, but "How dare you suggest that police would have helped a situation with any women, never mind a woman who looked and dressed a certain way, They do not care."

It's actually one big question as to why 1997 is referred to. Her reasoning for not coming out then and not reporting it at the time are both relying on the record label issue and also Jeordie's placement in Marilyn Manson. When the alleged events took place three years earlier, neither of these points were an issue: Jeordie had just joined the band and was not yet particularly famous, Marilyn Manson had only just released their debut album and had not yet had their "breakthrough" so there was really no "big machine behind Manson" to refer to yet at this time. And Jessicka had no record deal yet. So only when these issues become relevant, after Jack Off Jill gets signed to Risk and Jeordie's place is established as Manson's "right hand man" through lineup changes that make him a central bandmember, Marilyn Manson has released Antichrist Superstar which was a huge success, then it's discussed whether or not to come forward publicly.

Of course there's the idea that their relationship lasted until 1997 and that was why, but her 2017 statement only describes events until fall 1994 and leaves it open when they even broke up, it's just "I saw him through the 90's" and there's a lot of unclarity about this. Evidence suggests that they did not actually date that long. And it's one another question, actually, that despite all the "wanting to leave him" things, it's actually never said how she got rid of him.

My point is not to judge someone for taking their time, I understand that if something like this were to happen to a young person, it can be a tough place and you might be scared of reporting it and nervous about what the authorities or other people would say. I have followed a situation like that personally, I understand that. I'm not judging on taking time.

The point is that it seems the "would lose my record deal", if judging by this article, was something that was thought of and then the focus had to be shifted from reporting to coming forward and from 1994 to 1997 because of the inconsistency with the timeline of JOJ being signed to the label.

This detail combined with the way also only the 1999 tour I discussed earlier is mentioned? Label pressured, let's just not mention that another tour happened too when there was no label.